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Motorcycle Helmet Laws

Should state laws mandate a personal decision?

started by juszczak on 12/1/09.

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In the event of a traffic collision, a helmet can mean the difference between walking away and being buried six feet under. Why should those involved in a traffic collision suffer further emotional distress all because of the absence of a simple helmet? Driving is not a right. Helmets and seat belts save lives.

by otm_shank (54.55) on 12/1/09.

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Mr. Huge, Do you like picking out your own clothes each morning? Do you enjoy eating out and choosing what you want from the menu? Do you like the way you wear your hair? Do like hanging out with your friends? Do you enjoy sex? OR do you like BINGO and Lawernce Welk? Do you like ice cream socials?
WEAR A HELMET!!
I have taken care of enough young men involved in accidents without the benefit of a helmet. Pelase do not be my next!
Enter a nursing home and: Someone like me will pick out your clothes in the morning. These will be clothes purchased by your Mom , so chances are you will be looking like Mr. Rogers on a bad day.
Your food consumption will be determined by the registered dietitian and served on a schedule. There will be no menu for the pureed food you will be served.
Your hair will be cut short.
Your friends will visit for a while (about a month, average) and fade away. Your visitors will be mom,dad the local church groups, volunteers that read to the patients and an occasional Scout troop doing community service.
Your girlfriend may visit a bit longer than your friends and then she will move on.
The highlights of your day will be the activities designed to keep you busy, this includes Arts and Crafts, sing alongs, church groups and socials.

I write this with actual tears in my eyes because of the memories of the young men that I have met who have had their lives cut short, suffer and died.
Please,wear a helmet!



by Buscia (65.31) on 12/8/09.

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Mr. Huge; It's a point for and not the only reason motorcyclists should wear helmets. That being said, harsh language and loud clothing is not even on the same level as a motorcyclist being killed because they refused to wear a helmet. We have seat belt laws for a reason. Helmet laws are no different.

by otm_shank (54.55) on 12/2/09.

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You are making a straw-man argument. I am not making the argument against motorcycle riding..or the NFL. I support all modes of two wheel transportation. The NFL does not allow players to play without a helmet. Period. Again, the point is not against riding a motorcycle or partaking in dangerous sports. However, on public highways and roads, as driving is not a right, people are not free to ride as they please. If a motorcyclist dies in a car accident and his or her life could have been spared by simply wearing a helmet, then why should the surviving car driver(s) suffer the emotional distress that goes along with killing someone? I don't see it as inhibiting freedom in any way shape or form. Who is stopping you from riding?

by otm_shank (54.55) on 12/2/09.

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Mr. Huge; How are you not making a straw-man argument? "The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic." -- Wikipedia

The discussion is on motorcycle helmet laws. Not whether or not people should ride motorcycles or play in the NFL. I DON'T want to prohibit dangerous activities. I never once made that statement. Furthermore, wearing offensive t-shirts does not lead to loss of life. The emotional distress caused through offensive t-shirts is not equivalent to emotional distress caused through death. As I stated before, that is not even in the same ball park.

Furthermore, you switch the argument around and state that helmet laws restrict personal freedoms. Show me. Then you switch the argument around to say I am arguing to prohibit the NFL. Show me where I said no one should play football. The only mention of the NFL I made is that the NFL does not allow players to play without helmets. That is not equivalent to me saying the NFL should be prohibited because they force their players to wear helmets.

by otm_shank (54.55) on 12/2/09.

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Laws that protect people from being harmed by others make sense, but laws that protect people from themselves do not. A person should be allowed to choose, even at his own peril, whether or not to engage in risky behavior. Not wearing a helmet is risky behavior in that in the event of a motorcycle crash the person not wearing his helmet is more likely to be injured. So what? It is not the job of the state to act as a nanny. I wear my helmet for my own safety, not because the state tells me to.

by froggerus (55.06) on 12/2/09.

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People who ride motorcycles, and I am a former motorcycle rider, know the risks of riding without a helmet or other protective gear. Driving a car during a snow storm is also dangerous, but would you support a prohibition on driving during inclement weather? People get injured in professional motor-sport, should we ban that as well? New studies suggest that professional football players are suffering long term effects caused by head trauma, should the government outlaw the NFL because it is inherently dangerous? Clearly the answer to all of those questions must be “no.” People are free to decide how to live their lives, even if they make poor decisions. Mandatory helmet laws would simply be another arbitrary restriction on personal freedoms.

by Mr. Huge (56.99) on 12/2/09.

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it is similar to seatbelt laws, people know what is right and wrong. People also know that if they don't wear a helmet, they have the possibility to die, just the same as going through the windshield with a seatbelt. If we start doing that then all things that could possibly kill you should be outlawed. That would leave us in a society with nothing, because everything can potentially kill you.

by blaiselukasiewicz (55.94) on 12/6/09.

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Otm_shank; are you seriously arguing that motorcyclists should wear helmets to protect others from EMOTIONAL DISTRESS? Are there any other personal autonomies we should disregard to ensure people have a nice day? Should we ask the state to pass laws against harsh language and loud clothing?

by Mr. Huge (56.99) on 12/2/09.

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by Uklamok (62.03) on 12/2/09.

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